Today, instead of replying to one of the hundreds of fat loss questions I receive every week, I felt not only compelled, but obligated to comment (rant) on what I REALLY think about the “fat blocker” drug Xenical (Orlistat) going over the counter (OTC) in a reduced strength version called “Alli” …and to comment on what I REALLY think about diet drugs in general…
According to news headlines today, Xenical (Orlistat), will become the first over the counter diet pill in the United States.
Xenical has previously only been a prescription drug approved by the FDA for weight loss. The drug works by blunting fat absorption by blocking the digestive enzyme lipase.
The prescription version of the fat-blocking pill Xenical made by Roche was originally approved in 1999. Two years ago, GlaxoSmithKline bought the United States rights to Xenical from Roche
On January 24th, 2006, Federal health advisors voted 11-3 to recommend approval of over-the-counter sales of a (lower dose) version of Xenical, after an all day hearing.
Now, after the long FDA review process, the first ever FDA approved over the counter weight loss drug has been cleared for sale under the name Alli.
What is Alli (Orlistat) and what does it do?
Typically, weight loss drugs are designed to curb your appetite. Alli does something totally different: It prevents some of the fat you eat from being absorbed – it simply passes through your digestive system.
In case you’re wondering, yes, there are potentially uncomfortable and even embarrassing gastro-intestinal side effects: oily discharge, leaking, urgency, flatulence, oily spotting, liquid stools, incontinence…
Oh, forget the political correctness… it can make you sh** your pants! (still enthused about this “wonder pill?”)
An appetite suppressant or a thermogenic is not a long term solution to obesity either, but at least they might have some type of value under certain circumstances when there are no contraindications and the cost to risk benefit is acceptable.
Xenical on the other hand? This drug is just plain dumb and so is the idea of making it OTC.
The truth is, if you are really thinking long term, and particularly if you are not morbidly obese, ill, and in need of any and every means of last resort, then…
TAKING A PILL – ANY PILL – TO LOSE WEIGHT IS DOWN RIGHT DUMB.
Certain drugs may have benefits, maybe potentially life-saving benefits in some cases, but they do not “cure” diseases. Drugs do not heal. Drugs hide. Just because you sweep the dirt underneath your carpet doesn’t mean your home isn’t still filthy.
A drug can only temporarily relieve symptoms. Key word: temporarily.
Did you ever consider for a moment that body fat is a symptom?
A symptom of inactivity.
A symptom of suboptimal nutrition.
A symptom of accumulated poor lifestyle choices.
A symptom of negative thoughts and beliefs that manifest into unhealthy behaviors.
Taking drugs is like clipping the leaves off weeds to try to keep weeds out of your garden, but the only way to keep the weeds out of your garden is to PULL THEM OUT BY THE ROOTS!
Plus, every drug – including over the counter drugs – has side effects – sometimes extremely serious side effects. That doesn’t mean no one should ever take any drugs. It means you must consider the risk to benefit ratio of any drugs you take before making a decision and you must at the same time find and deal with the true cause of the problem instead of treating the symptom.
When you combine a supportive healthy nutrition program that FEEDS and maintains muscle, consisting of natural, unprocessed foods, with a lifelong exercise program that BURNS FAT, then you have yourself a long term health solution. This is the only true way to rip the weeds of obesity out by the roots.
Making this drug over the counter is a big mistake. Why?
Well, first of all, by going OTC, it may encourage people to start becoming fat phobic again.
Didn’t we go through an entire decade of low fat diets already… and then go through another decade of low carb diets?
Are we now going to go through another fat phobia phase? A balance between macronutrients is ideal, not removal of an entire food group, whether that is fat or carbs or whatever. Whatever happened to BALANCE!
Dietary fat doesn’t make you fat, and most people are woefully lacking in good, healthy essential fats like those found in fish, fish oil, nuts, flax and so on. Using fat blockers will probably mean less absorption of the good fatty acids so necessary for good health.
Second, this drug also has great potential for un-policed misuse and abuse if it goes over the counter.
One year ago, when this OTC proposal was first announced in the news media, Jim Foster of the excellent www.diet-blog.com website wrote, “This will not help those who already have problems with laxative abuse. A number of groups are concerned it will be used as medicated bulimia – encouraging binge-eating in young people.”
In his blog article, ‘Xenical Over the Counter: Big Mistake?’ Foster continues..
“On the MSNBC site, there is an overwhelming vote of confidence for the drug. Of over 132,000 votes 59% say they will try it because “…I can’t lose those last 10 pounds.” Of course, these results are very skewed as the people reading the article are people with an interest in the drug. Even so, these results are concerning. I strongly believe that a drug such as this must be prescribed by a physician. This move will simply enforce the quick-fix mentality. Xenical is already guilty of a series of aggravating ads in Canada – attempting to associate glamour with the drug.”
Third, Xenical, and now Alli, may encourage people to eat more fatty, sugary refined junk food instead of less because they may be thinking that part of it won’t even be absorbed.
Fourth, another problem is that fat soluble vitamin intake will go right out the you know what, along with the fat. Doctors usually recommend a multi vitamin supplement to patients taking Xenical for this reason.
You know what I think? I think this is a desperate attempt to revive a lousy loser drug that many people have taken a pass on refills due to its undesirable side effects and long term ineffectiveness.
If a doctor told you that you had diabetes or high blood pressure or high cholesterol… or even that you were suffering from depression, what would your response be?
Im not sure about you, but most people, especially Americans, would instantly say, ‘OK what drug should I take?” and the physician would be quick to prescribe it.
Many physicians and health professionals consider obesity to be biggest disease in the world, and they say that it should be treated like one.
The truth is that obesity is one of the biggest businesses in the world and is being treated like one!
Weight loss is potentially the biggest market on Earth for drug sales, and the stakes couldn’t be higher.
The Glaxo company estimated that 5 to 6 million Americans a year would buy the drug if offered over the counter. Those numbers could mean at least $1.5 billion a year in retail sales.
Glaxo also says that Alli would cost $12 to $25 a week. Sounds like a hundred bucks a month down the toilet (literally!) if you ask me.
But what about the research? Clinical trials showed that patients taking xenical lost on average 5.3 to 6.2 pounds more than weight than the group taking a placebo.
In 6 month clinical trials for the proposed over the counter drug, patients on Alli lost 4 to 5 pounds more than the group taking a placebo
What do I think abo
ut that?
Maybe the subjects ate less fat due to the fear that eating fat = leaking stools. On one website, a patient answering a survey said, ‘The drug forced me to avoid fatty foods if I wanted to keep my underwear clean. I lost a lot of weight.’ (Nice)
Maybe some of the subjects in the studies felt that it wasn’t working so they dropped out. Diet drug studies have very high drop out rates, so the people remaining were the ones who got the best results.
Maybe if the control group and the placebo group were put on the same caloric intake, then the group taking xenical lost more weight simply because fewer dietary fat calories were absorbed!
Do you think if you weren’t in a controlled study environment where your food intake was monitored, you would really control your intake, or would you be more likely to eat a bunch of greasy junk because you were thinking your body wouldn’t absorb it?
Translation: the study results are biased, skewed and misleading
THE BOTTOM LINE???
My advice to all our fine medical doctors out there: start prescribing weight training, cardio and sensible eating first, and drugs only as means of last resort. Stop fattening the wallets of the drug companies.
My advice to the legislators and government agencies involved: You are making a big mistake making this drug over the counter. Keep it by prescription only, so at least the doctors can supervise and “police” it’s use and it doesn’t get abused by teenagers and people with just 10-30 pounds to lose who really don’t need it.
My advice to everyone who wants to get healthier and leaner:
“Burn The Fat and Feed The Muscle”. Make that Your MANTRA!
You gotta exercise (BURN) and you gotta eat (FEED). If you do these two things right then even if the pharmaceutical giants come out with a pill that really is safe and actually works, you can save your money because YOU won’t need it!
Train hard, eat right and expect success,
Tom Venuto, NSCA-CPT, CSCS
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Hello Tom,I’m glad to be the first to answer your comments on Xenical and Alli. I am an chemical engineer and so are some of my friends, some of which are working in the pharma industry. Big market, Big companies, BIG revenues! The key words, I think, are involved with the pharma industry.Even suppliers of equipment concentrate on selling to pharma companies because they KNOW they have money. That should say something.Making Xenical and Alli OTC adds to idea that “as long as people are sick, someone, somewhere, will make money out of it”.I’m a big believer myself of healthy living. I don’t take headache medicine or any medicine unless i can’t get out of bed because of physical pain. Then again, I usually just stay in bed, sleep, eat some soup and I’m good to go.I agree that the solution to MOST health problems in the choice in lifestyle one has. The healthier you are, the easier it will be to recover for sickness and disease. I think that this has been proven more than once.So, from one healthy human to another, I encourage you to keep it up and i’m really glad i got my BFFM book. it’s been two weeks that i started tracking my calorie and food intake, i’ve been relugar at the gym for the past 3 weeks and i feel more energised, i sleep better and work better. now, time to shed the fat.Thank you,
Hiya Tom!I must say, I am glad that you used, ahem, “straightforward” language in your last blog … I am a pharmacist myself, and affectionately call Xenical “sh**y pants”. The idea that this drug is heading toward the OTC market has me wanting to invest in underwear companies!Honestly, the more I know about most medications, the less I want to take them … and Xenical is certainly no exception. Sure, there are significant benefits to medications, and I myself owe my asthma control (and therefore my ability to follow the BFFM aerobics recommendation closely for the last 3 weeks) to a popular, though sometimes controversial, prescription asthma controller. I just think most of the more popular medications in particular (like sleep aids and even some antidepressants) are ‘a small bandage on a wound that needs 50 stitches’ … there’s always something else that needs to be done to completely ‘heal’ besides just taking a pill!! Antidepressants in particular ALL recommend regular counseling sessions in conjunction with taking them … how many people do you think want to follow that recommendation?There are other drugs out there which are used as aversion therapy, which is all I would consider Xenical/Alli to be: one in particular is for people who are recovering alcoholics … they take this drug, and if they have so much as a sip of alcohol, they will become violently ill. Nice, huh? What happened to getting at the root of the problem?I can only see this step to put Alli on the market as a drug company who has had mild success in the SALES of Xenical over the years, who is trying to get a piece of the quick-fix-for-weight-loss-OTC market. This will not be good for anyone who tries it.I have recently read your ebook, Burn The Fat, Feed The Muscle (BFFM), joined a gym, actually started (get this) … RUNNING for the first time in my life (I was always afraid to run with my asthma), and have lost 6 pounds since the new year. I know it’s a long, slow process, but it is worth it. Worth it to my heart, lungs, & muscles to do the exercise you talked about. Worth it to my tummy (no more stomach/gas pains from bad food!) and every cell in my body to feed it the way you said to feed it.I hope everyone who’s remotely familiar with your website will boycott this drug as I intend to. I hope even more that anyone who wants so badly to lose weight will follow your recommendations and take everything one day at a time.-MariaPS – There is one thing from your book that keeps me going when exercising: saying to myself afterward that I am leaner now than when I walked into the gym. Who knew such simple words could have so much power? Thank you!
All I can say – from past experience – is that Xenical, in it’s original form, is a true deterrent to a high fat diet! While on the drug, I changed my eating habits for fear of ruining … and I mean ruining … my underwear and clothing. You think it’s a toot, but oops, it’s a poopie. An oily, orange discharge that stinks to high heaven and, even with bleach, turns your whites a dull purple. It’s a nasty drug, but I did lose weight simply because it FORCED me to change my diet. Once I began eating correctly (because of the Xenical), I continued and continued to lose weight to the tune of 48 pounds. Xenical was the catalyst. I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it, but the above info was my personal experience.
As I understand it Orlistat blocks the intestines from absorbing fat – any kind of fat. Some of us who are watching our weight, already watch our fat intake. Therefore if there is very little fat to be blocked in the first place, how can we expect to lose more weight? It seems to me that this kind of product will only make things worse. People will eat lots of fat thinking it will all be blocked by the pill anyway causing them to have worse nutritional habits than ever before. Besides that, the fat-soluble vitamins will all be released causing ill health. What is happening here is “Big Pharma” doesn’t care about public health, all “Big Pharma” cares about is BIG BUCKS!!!
Hello Tom,I read your last newsletter with pleasure!I have a very rare disorder called intestinal lymphangiectasia. In other words, fats make me go PRECISELY the way that Alli does to normal people.It’s NO fun, I have no clue why people would want to do it!Btw thank you so much for your ebook… since when I bought it I started exercising and eating right… because of the lymphangiectasia (and consequent “starvation”) I had put on too much fat. I went from 25.6% fat to 21.8% religiously following your suggestions… I even managed to start eating all the essential fatty acids I need… now I feel hot all the time, eat 2000 calories a day, exercise and am leaner and leaner.You just rock!!!!Rosanna
Hello;I am relatively new to the loss waight program because I have had a heart attack about 9 months ago. that’s not why I am writing this, because your article of Feb. 8, 2007 has made me start doing things the proper way. excerise and eat properly. I am 68 years and 30 pounds overwaight. Your email today has really made me think because I was going to start taking pills to lose the waight but you have opened my eyes to a better way. Now all I have to do is stick to the program that I will be given. That will be my biggest problem.Thank you very much for this timely email.Raymond
I was on my elliptical watching the news this morning when this story came up. I looked over at my dh and said, “When are people just going to get off their lazy a**es and stop believing in a magic pill?” A year from now I can see the head lines: “Patients formly taking Xenical are now in a class action lawsuit stating that miracle drug caused pre-cancerous colan polups”. I can see the lawyers licking their chops now.
Nothing good can come of Xenical becoming an OTC drug for weight reduction. Xenical has been available in Australia OTC for some time and it has been inappropriately sold to, or ended up with people who don’t need it. Teenager’s and persons suffering from eating disorders (either anorexia/bulemia nervosa and compulsive overeating) find it easier to gain access to the drug, becoming even more unwell both physically and emotionally. The causes of the eating/weight/dysmorphia issues are not being dealt with and some cases exacerbated. I’d really like the FDA to take a good look at the issues that have arrisen as a result of Australias’ decision to allow the sale of Xenical OTC and learn from it.
Hollyl, I didn’t know that about Australia. thank you for sharing!tom v
I have written to you before on the subject of Codex Alimentarius. This Codex (now law in Europe) is in the US as the Adverse Event Report. This movement is sponsored by the WTO and the FAO and in the US by the FDA. Yes , you guessed it, the long arm of Big Pharma! The objective is to have every vitamin, mineral and herb declared to be DRUGS and therefor subject to the same testing procedures etc. before they will be legally permitted to be sold…BY PRESCRIPTION ONLY! For more info on this vital topic visit: http://www.alliance-natural-health.org and watch the 28min. video We Become Silent (narrated by Judi Dench).Can you see the connection between the FDA’s approval of Alli and the FDA’s push to eliminate the competition?
As a person who rarely takes any drugs, there is no way I would ever take diet pills. I don’t like taking cold medicines unless absolutely necessary. I have no desire to become addicted to the diet of the week club, either. Thanks so much for all the great info about becoming healthier.I keep telling people who are in favor of the national health care plan in the US that it will not solve anything. Until this country decides to get healthier, “free” health care is not the answer. It will create a dependancy on free services verses living healthier. It will take away the incentives to live healthier because anyone will have access to healthcare thinking they can go on living the same life styles.As far as the drug companies are concerned, I belive that over half of the diseases are created so that a drug has a demand. Most of it is created by fear and many sicknesses are a creation of the mind.
Hi Tom,I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment, especially in the most recent comment.My 2 cents is this “Don’t take drugs”
Tom, I am so glad that this drug wasn’t available OTC just a few short weeks ago, because I was looking into trying it! This was before I found your site and read your book. I found your site by doing a search for relacore – I read what you had to say about it and it made so much sense that I decided to give your program a try. I have only been on it for a few days now, but I feel better than I have on any other diet before. Just last week I tried Jenny Craig and I felt like crap! I was starving and had no energy. Now I have energy to work out and make healthy meals and take care of my family. You do such a great job at getting down to the basics and making it make sense! Thanks so much
I’m so glad that you brought up the point about healthy fats. I’m sure that Xenical can’t distinguish between good and bad fats! And anything that makes ones body respond in that way…come on!! What’s going on with our country? Instead of promoting clean eating and exercise, this is what we resort to. But natural supplements have to labeled with a ‘warning’ that they aren’t ‘approved’ by the FDA. I myself take that as a blessing!
If prescription drugs are so good, where are all the healthy, happy, athletic drug takers??? Once again the FDA disgraced itself by trading the safety of our fellow citizens for lucre. Serving as the manager in a health food store, I deal with a lot of customers who are on the never-ending-quest of short cut to dream body, who fantasize of being perfectly fit by taking a “magic pill”, without a sensible diet and forget about exercising, that’s “too much work”. Isn’t that ridiculous!!You know Tom, if they at least understand that there are CHOICES to be made, they can choose to go for a walk instead of being a couch bum, choose to not dig in a second bowl of ice cream with extra toppings, they can choose to find out what’s best for THEM, which should include the dangerous down side of drugs and trans fat etc., they can choose to better educate themselves on how to achieve their goals, and their goals could be achieved by making COMMITMENT of making consistent choices, and so on.But no, to some that’s “too much work”. That’s just total BS!! I wish we can just spoon fed some BFFM. But on the second reckon, it’s garbage in garbage out, maybe their M&M sized brain is losing have cognitive function deficiency due to the high dosage of sugar and stimulates being put, (do you think they programmed their subconscious that way?) Is that why people are romancing the idea of have it as OTC? Well… I guess they can enjoy their happy meal with a side of heart attack, be a diet pill junkie, sh*t their way to skinny (and still be fat) They are victims of self-torture, slaves of the big pharma byproduct and future lipo candidates, there’s really no need for people like you and I to justify their lack of effort, if they CHOOSE to be that way. By the way, FDA can go straight to hell. Along with the deceptive clinical trial statistician who seem have sold their soul for a dollar too. Read the data! Common sense says if you have to take a pill to lose 5 extra pounds in 6 MONTHS, you’ve got a f***ing problem so pardon me for my outburst!!! lol Here’s an idea Tom, why not compress the BFFM into a pill form, with the latest FDA approval patent on it, and we’ll either have doctors across the country prescribe it or make it OTC, regardless, do you think people will be substantiated then?
good for you. what you say is true. I am about 10 lbs. heavier than I’d want and when I heard this was offered OTC i thought, “sweet”. But actually reading what you wrote made me once again realize that if I want to lose that weight, it’s up to me. and bottom line, i just need to burn more calories than I take in.. it’s really not a hard concept. It’s just a hard lifestyle b/c there are so many delicious horrible things out there.this drug is another easy out that is not actually easy and not an actual out.
Hi Tom…. Firstly – thanks for doing what you doing!..I am so glad that there are some people that are around to help me pick up the world, when all has abandoned it, and all is lost! …I absolutely agree with what you remark on – about these silly people… (I believe – so does quite a few of our soldiers – that as long as people are kept sick – the drug barons – and drug lords – will keep getting money to ‘attempt’ a cure) … Dr. Ivan Danhof – proved that way back in ’76 etc … and it almost cost him his life!…Well – squire – don’t forget – when the world is lost – us soldiers will be there to mop up …. maybe we can then start a ‘GOOD THING’ …Kindest RegardsSpencer… Critical Life Chemical Systems Engineer…JohannesburgSouth Africa
Tom,I have been struggling to lose 20 pounds now for probably about 5 years. I used to be in the best shape of my life before having two kids and knee surgery and now find myself in a connundrum. I want to thank you for your “divine intervention”. I literally have been considering buying these so-called diet pills to help me with these nagging 20 pounds, but I’ve always been a huge advocate of losing weight naturally and quite frankly, these weight-loss supplements scare the hell out of me. I woke up this morning, retrieved my email and there you were – telling me what I already knew but was considering doing anyway to the detriment of my own health! I’ve been making excuses to not buy your book and actually forgot about it for a little bit until I received your article. I’m buying BFFM today and getting rid of these 20 pounds once and for all. I’m a little nervous because it means making changes in my life and changes are hard, but I’m tired of making excuses and I’m tired of feeling lousy. You are exactly what I needed today so thank you, thank you, thank you.
I read and read everything you write. I read it over and over again to make it a part of my every day life.I am 100% endomorph and have fought with weight problems all my life. The reason I write is because of this drug.My doctor prescribed this drug to me years ago. It ruined my life for a time. It ruined furniture. The “oily discharge” is neon orange and constant. Ick! It is absolutely gross and humiliating. It is a cruel and evil drug and I can’t believe it is even still on the market. If you can imagine losing total control of your bowels on a regular basis -it happened more than once to me at work – then you know what just a day or two on Xenical can do.Since reading your book I eat clean. I have lost 7% of my body fat and I still have a great deal to lose. But now I can hike up mountains with my husband. I lift 4 days a week and am strong, the typical endomorph.I have a long way to go but I feel better than ever. I work out at 4:30 in the morning and I have to eat less and work out harder than most. I don’t mind because of the way this change has made my feel.Thanks for speaking out – even screaming when you have to. I can’t believe how many people still don’t get the body composition thing!Thank you for educating me. It has changed my life!
Cheers! this is a real great article that I think should good out to ALL the daily press…We appreciate your research….Thanksjk
Couldn’t agree with you more and appreciate your responsible response to this further onslaugh by the drug industry.Marcela
The main mechanism behind any success gained from Orlistat is its behavior modifying effects. It does force you to change your diet. It is also very true that it will contiribute to Omega 3 FA deficiency already rampant in the US population. There is little doubt that orlistat is a very poor medication.Still, while I wholeheartedly agree with your overall assessment, I strongly disagree with your statement that drugs are just there to “temporarily treat symptoms” unless you are referring to to weight loss drugs only. Antibiotics cure. Other drugs may not “cure” but make life possible. Our lives would be a lot harder without therapeutic drugs — life span would likely diminish significantly. So don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater!Your core message is absolutely true however. Lasting health, optimum weight and physical well being is by far best achieved by physical activity, a well balanced diet mainly of fruit/vegetables/whole grains/lean proteins and non animal fats (other than fish), and maintaining mental health.
Hi Tom,This is to add to the first response by Alain higher up. I’m also a chemical engineer and I feel like this guy just took the words out of my mouth.I never wanted and never will want to work for the pharma industry. Although most jobs are secure, it goes against my values. I know a lot of people, including members of my family, who will pop a pill for any reason at all.I have IBS, so imagine what this pill will do to me.With IBS, I still have episodes that make me run to the bathroom in 1 second flat (I’m getting better). Some of my family members always offer me to take this or that pill to make the episode go away.The truth is that I rather go through it. If my body says it has to go, it has to go.Coming back to what Alain said, I don’t take pills for anything, unless the headache or whatever ache pain I have is preventing me from moving. Which is rare!I indeed don’t want to work for the pharma industry. They are rutheless. Although they have money, I know of engineers who work like dogs. Since all operators are part of a union, all extra work that these guys won’t do gets slap on the back of the process engineer and they don’t get paid overtime.So, not only they take advantage of people who the want the easy fix, they also exploit their people. I have yet to hear about one pharma company who treats their people well.and don’t get me started on pharmaceutical salespersons…Anyway, thanks for this entry and your honesty!Alain #2
I’m a licensed psychologist, and have seen many people struggle with health issues, self image, “motivation,” and change. The common sense approach which Tom is espousing can’t be wrong. Imagine deer, wolves, cougars and squirrels running to the doctor, or now their local market, so they can spew tell-“tail” orange poop as a byproduct of trying to achieve a natural eating plan. They would be laughed out of the forest!Here’s some free advice, or rather, a question to contemplate, for people still considering using (abusing?) OTC products for fat loss:Would you rather put up with gross orange leaking and spurting, or with the natural feelings of being a bit “hungry,” which are your body’s feedback to you that you are– hooray!– losing your fat?Let’s see– orange spurting/leaking, versus getting the fantastic, natural confirmation signals of feeling “hungry” from time to time, which are your prize and indicator that you are losing fat. Hmmm? And if you approach your burning/feeding methodically and patiently, using Tom’s wise approach, working with your natural nutritional needs (food needs, not emotions seeking a quick fix), you’ll get the hang of how much to eat, what to eat, and when, as Tom teaches, so that “hunger” should retreat to being a “background noise” indicator of your progress. In this way, “hunger” functions as a normal, repeat–normal, indicator signal, not a problem to “fix” through overeating or worse, overeating along with faith that an OTC fix will somehow make everything right.To me, a healthy cycle of burning/feeding, burning/feeding, seems oh so much more sophisticated, although orange is a flattering color for some people…And if the burning/feeding is done sensibly, on a consistent basis with trust in your body’s own ability to healthily regulate its fat content, the automatic improvement in energy and outlook, along with true and healthy weight loss, will be your reward– not a messy confirmation in your undies and beyond that you are supposedly “taking control” (oh, yeah, right) of your health.So…Save orange for Halloween, I’m thinking! Millions of squirrels can’t be wrong.
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