Can Cheating on Your Diet Help You Lose MORE Weight?
“If you cheat on your diet, it will actually help you lose more fat.” That claim sounds like typical fad diet hype doesn’t it? Nevertheless, it does seem that the majority of fat loss experts recommend allowing some flexibility in the form of occasional meals off the regular plan, for psychological reasons if no other. A few diet gurus even suggest that if you take full-out “cheat days”, you’ll get better fat loss for physiological reasons. Controversial? Yes. Some truth to it? Quite possibly, yes… it all depends on how you approach it…

Earlier this year, Joel Marion released such a program which made a claim that sounded too good to be true. He said that if you cheat on your diet - I mean really cheat, for a full day - it will actually help you lose more fat – as compared to trying to be 100% strict on a diet and not cheat at all.
Whenever there are claims like this for a new diet program, there’s always a ton of buzz on the internet and I get emails from my subscribers, customers and readers asking me if this latest diet is a scam.
Typically, I would reply that they could count me among the believers in allowing cheat meals (or free meals as I prefer to call them), and that I am also a supporter of zig-zagging calories up and down, specifically in the form of carb cycling and “re-feeding days.”
I couldn’t comment any further about specific claims until I had seen this new program or asked Joel directly. Well, I finally carved out the time to track down Joel for an interview and I was very pleased that he agreed to answer all my questions, even the tough ones. Hopefully, this will help people sort out whether this whole “cheat on your diet to get leaner” concept has merit.
Without further ado, here is part one…
Tom: Joel, first, what’s your quick definition of cheating – I think we have to define it to be on the same page as we discuss it.
Joel: When used in reference to dieting, the term “cheating” by most everyone refers to when someone eats foods that are not in accordance with the plan. You can cheat on a low carb diet by eating carbs, for instance. Doesn’t mean carbs are bad, just that carbs are not part of the plan you are currently adhering to. In most instances, the term has a negative connotation, because you are doing something you are not supposed to do.
What I teach is strategic cheating, which refers to periodically “going off” the diet and allowing yourself to eat foods that typically are not thought as “diet” or “diet friendly” foods (pizza, ice cream, fries, etc). It’s actually not “cheating” per se because it’s part of the plan, but we stick with that word because people identify it and they “get it” immediately when they hear something like “cheat day” or “cheat meal” or “Cheat Your Way Thin”
Tom: I have to be honest, I’m not sure if I like the word cheating or cheat. I understand its just semantics, but that’s the point - I think words matter. You suggest that people should eat the foods they crave without feeling guilty, as long as it’s a part of a strategic plan, but doesn’t the very word cheating imply that you’re doing something wrong and that could make someone feel guilty? I used to call them cheat meanls, but now prefer now to call them free meals because I think it’s a more positive or at least neutral term. What are your thoughts?
Joel: I actually with agree with you as I hinted to above, however, “free” does not have the impact that cheat does. It does not have nearly the same familiarity in the diet world, and in a world where we use words to convey strong messages, cheat is a much more appropriate term for “getting the point across”. Ask 100 people on the street what it means to “cheat” on their diet, and all 100 will have the same answer. Tell 100 people that you have a “free meal” as part of your diet plan, and you’ll probably get a lot of stares. It’s not as familiar of a concept and not as effective at conveying the message in an immediate way to the general public.
On a similar note, I hate the term “dieting” or “diet”, but I use it all the time (even if reference to my program) because people know what it means. It’s familiar, and they “get it”.
One other thing – the term “cheating” actually fits perfectly with my program in another sense as well, in that you are “cheating” the DIET. Dieting sucks, as I’m sure we’ll soon discuss, and by having days in which you more or less say “screw you” to your diet and eat whatever you want, you actually cheat “dieting” out of the opportunity to destroy your metabolism, plateau your fat loss, and all the other negative adaptations and consequences that 99.9% of all calorie restrictive nutrition programs pose.
Dieting is a no-win battle, and I’m happy quite happy to cheat the bogus institution of “dieting” out of robbing more people from the results they deserve any day.
Tom: Cheating on your diet to lose more weight seems counter-intuitive if not utterly illogical, but depending on how you approach it, I’m in complete agreement that there’s a strong argument for it from two different angles – psychological and physiological. What do you think are the psychological benefits to the dieter allowing cheat days as opposed to being 100% strict on your diet?
Joel: First, it absolutely increases adherence across the board, there’s no getting around that. It makes “dieting”, a concept which generally (and absurdly) demands that people forgo their favorite foods for months and months at a time, actually livable, and more importantly ENJOYABLE.
I was actually just talking about this with another trainer the other day. For most people, Day 1 of a diet—when they finally buckle down and decide they need to go on one—is the worst day of their life. It’s depressing. “No pizza, for like, 3 months while I attempt to lose this 30 lbs.” Yeah right. Anyone who thinks that’s actually going to happen is completely deluded and this is exactly why 99% of people fail with restrictive dieting.
Two, let’s say you do “cheat” (not strategically) and eat something you’re “not supposed to” while dieting. Guilt, failure, and a slew of other feelings that you should NEVER have to feel while on a diet surface and make you feel as though you “just don’t have it in you” or that you lack willpower or that you don’t have what it takes to stick with a program and achieve your goals. That’s terrible.
Flat out, dieting, in the calorie restrictive, self-sacrificing manner we have learned it, is flat out unrealistic for the vast majority of people. If you told me I had to give up pizza for 3 months to get lean, I’d be one fat dude. The trade off isn’t worth it, and neither are the painfully slow results that most “diets” yield.
Tom: On the physiological side, there are a lot of benefits to “cheating” after a period of restrictive dieting. There’s a lot going on in the body when you do this, but much of it seems to revolve around one hormone, leptin. Would you explain in as simple terms as possible for the layperson, what is leptin?
Joel: Leptin is awesome (or at least when you know how to manipulate it, it is). Get on it’s “bad side”, however, and you’re pretty much doomed to be fat.
In the simplest terms, leptin is a hormone that communicates your nutritional status to the rest of your body. From there, your body then makes decisions on what to do with things like fat burning and metabolism, based on the messages it’s receiving from our friend leptin.
High leptin levels = heightened fat burning and metabolism
Low leptin levels = decreased fat burning and metabolism
There’s a little more to it than that, but you asked for simple terms.
Leptin has also been deemed the “anti-starvation” hormone, which is essentially is its major function in the body, to prevent, or at least dramatically slow the negative adaptations (from a survival standpoint) when food is scarce or when energy intake drops substantially (i.e. starvation).
Great for our hunter and gather ancestors, terrible for the dieter.
And while dieting certainly isn’t as extreme as starvation, it really is nothing more than a lesser degree of exactly that, carry slightly lessened, but still very troubling consequences for the dieter.
Getting into some of the research on leptin, research has shown that after only 7 days of calorie restriction, leptin drops on average 50% — putting you at roughly 50% of your fat burning potential. That’s after only ONE week. And as long as you continue to fail to provide your body with the energy it’s hoping to receive, adaptations get worse, leptin falls harder, and metabolism takes an even greater hit.
The good news is, it only takes one day of “overfeeding” or “cheating” to bring leptin levels back to baseline and restore things like plummeted thyroid hormones, fat burning enzymes, a manageable (not insatiable) appetite, and metabolism overall.
The problem with overfeeding, however, is that if you fail to properly set up the rest of the diet in an extremely strategic manner around a cheat day or overfeed day, overfeed days can backfire and lead to a one-step-forward one-step-back phenomenon. This is something we cover heavily in Cheat Your Way Thin—the ideal way to set up the other 6 days each week, based on a plethora of research, to ensure that each cheat day accelerates, not detracts, from progress.
Tom: Are you saying that you can significantly manipulate leptin with nutritional intervention, including cheat days, and that if we can scour the research and make a punch list of things that keep leptin levels as normal as possible and prevent leptin from dropping like it would with a linear low calorie or low carb diet, this is going improve our results?
Joel: Absolutely, no question about it. Keeping metabolism consistently high and avoiding the negative hormonal adaptations of dieting equates to better, faster results; there’s no way around that. That’s in addition to the psychological/adherence benefits, which obviously, if you’re actually still doing the diet 6 or 8 weeks into the plan, you’re going to experience infinitely better results than if you quit after 2 weeks every time.
Tom: Are you claiming that these techniques will actually increase fat loss, or simply prevent the bad stuff that happens with restrictive dieting, like the adaptive decrease in metabolism and the increase in appetite which could then lead to plateaus? I think this is an important distinction.
Joel: Preventing the bad stuff = increasing the good stuff (i.e. fat burning). If your metabolism slows, that means you are burning fewer calories, right? So for instance, let’s say your BMR was 2000 cals/day when you first started dieting, and then through restrictive dieting over a period of a month or two (and the subsequent decrease in leptin and metabolism), you’re now only burning 1500 cals/per day.
If you had kept leptin “happy” through strategic cheating and metabolism did NOT drop off, you’d still be burning an extra 500 calories a day. Do you think that burning an extra 500 calories a day is valuable in terms of faster fat loss? Without question.
Essentially, by “preventing” the bad things from occurring, you automatically and absolutely increase fat loss beyond what would be possible without taking measures to manipulate leptin and keep metabolism at its height, week to week.
Simply put, use strategic cheating in the proper way, and by the end of each week you’ll have lost more fat than if you simply chose to remain “strict” 7 days a week. That equates to increased fat loss any way you look at it.
Tom: I’ve been looking at some research that says some folks have plenty of leptin but they also have leptin resistance. I haven’t seen many people really address this leptin resistance issue aside from saying it exists. Do you think this is a common problem and does your program offer any insights into the causes as well as solutions?
Joel: Okay, the other thing I didn’t mention while trying to give you the “simple” definition earlier was that leptin levels aren’t just mediated by calorie intake alone—they’re also affected by the amount of body fat you are carrying.
High levels of body fat = high levels of leptin
Low levels of body fat = low levels of leptin
Now, from everything I said earlier, that makes it sound like fat people with high levels of body fat should actually be the leanest people around if leptin actually made a difference (and lean people should be gaining weight like nobody’s business, because of extremely low leptin levels).
This is where leptin resistance and leptin sensitivity come in.
Similar to insulin resistance, if leptin receptors are constantly being bombarded by high levels of leptin, they start to become less sensitive to the hormone.
This is what happens with insulin in Type II diabetics. People eat crap food and loads of highly processed carbohydrates for years, flood their bloodstream with insulin every hour of the day, and gradually over time insulin receptors become so desensitized to the hormone to the point that insulin no longer “works”.
Same with leptin. Overweight people, who have been overweight for years, become resistant to the hormone because of massive amounts of leptin (caused by high body fat levels and high calorie intakes) slamming receptors for extended periods of time.
On the other hand, lean people can get by with lower levels of leptin, relatively speaking, because their receptors are extremely sensitive to the hormone. It’s important to note, however, that this is relative to the person and their individual “baseline” levels of leptin when food intake is normal.
For example, let’s say, and I’m just pulling out a totally arbitrary number for simplicity’s sake, a particular person with a low level of body fat has a baseline level of leptin is “10” (I’m leaving out the µg/L units of measure left and all that jazz for simplicity as well). “10” is all this person needs for normal metabolic functioning to occur because they are highly sensitive to leptin. On the other hand, “10” wouldn’t be nearly enough to maintain normal metabolism for a much larger, and subsequently less leptin sensitive individual.
So, you can see what I mean that it’s all relative.
Another important thing to note is that calorie restriction lowers leptin independent of body fat. So, let’s say this same person from above went on a diet. And they’re leptin levels went down to “5”. Sure, they’re very sensitive to leptin, but “5” aint going to get the job done even for them. When leptin levels fall below baseline levels, whatever baseline levels are relative to the person, negative metabolic adaptations occur.
Getting back to leptin resistance, there’s good news and there’s bad news. The good news is that it’s totally reversible, but the bad news is that someone who has been overweight for years (and is thus probably leptin resistant) can’t just jump right into a strategic cheating program and have it be effective—simply put, in this case, the dietary strategies we use to manipulate leptin wouldn’t really be of use to them because they’re resistant to the hormone and it’s not going to matter if we spike leptin with a cheat day—they already have plenty of leptin running around.
For this person, the focus would then be on reversing the leptin resistance and restoring leptin sensitivity, and that is done one way: clean eating + exercise, and yes, with a moderate calorie restriction. Pretty much all the same dietary measures one would take to increase insulin sensitivity (clean eating, low-glycemic carbs, etc). Carbohydrate intake also affects leptin levels, so someone is this position would certainly want to avoid highly processed carbs or anything that is going to give leptin a significant spike.
I generally recommend 3-6 weeks of this type of dieting (with occasional allowance for a controlled carbohydrate “refeed”, still with lower glycemic foods to maintain dietary sanity) before beginning with periodic cheating, and that’s actually the purpose of the “priming phase” of the Cheat Your Way Thin program.
The question might then arise, is this person doomed to experience poor results and limited weight loss during the first 3-6 weeks because of the fact that they are leptin resistant? And the answer is no. For people who are significantly overweight, there are other factors that come into play that allow for weight loss to occur with a sound diet and exercise program, in spite of the leptin issue. If you’ve got a lot to lose, those first 5 – 10 lbs are going to come off quickly simply with corrected habits and exercise, regardless.
To be continued in part two
Visit Joel’s Website at: Cheat Your Way Thin program.
About Joel Marion
As a nationally published author and fitness personality, Joel has appeared on NBC, ABC, and CBS, is a frequent guest on SIRIUS satellite radio, and has been featured in the pages of more than 20 popular national newsstand magazines including Men’s Fitness, Woman’s Day, Maximum Fitness, Oxygen, Clean Eating, MuscleMag International, and Muscle & Fitness Hers. His other accomplishments include winning the world’s largest Body Transformation contest for “regular” people, the Body-for-Life Transformation Challenge, in 2001 as well as graduating Magna Cum Laude from a top-20 Exercise Science program and being certified as both a sports nutritionist and personal trainer through the nation’s premier certification agencies. Through more than 6 years of research and working with clients in the real world, Joel developed his Cheat Your Way Thin system which you can learn more about at: www.CheatYourWayThin.com
About Tom Venuto
Tom Venuto is a lifetime natural (steroid-free) bodybuilder, independent nutrition researcher, freelance writer and author of Burn The Fat, Feed The Muscle (e-book) and the #1 Amazon best-seller, The Body Fat Solution (Avery/Penguin, hardcover). Tom’s articles are featured on hundreds of websites worldwide and he has been featured in IRONMAN, Australian IRONMAN, Natural Bodybuilding, Muscular Development, Men’s Fitness, Men’s Exercise as well as on dozens of radio shows including Martha Stewart healthy living (Sirius), ESPN-1250 and WCBS. Tom is also the founder and CEO of the premier fat loss support community, the Burn The Fat Inner Circle
Disclosure: Tom Venuto and the burn the fat blog have no affiliations with Joel Marion, cheat your way thin.com or the cheat to lose diet
15 December, 2009 posted in Tom's Interviews





Comments
The thing I am most curious about is how this "Cheat To Lose" philosophy applies in the real world, since the people who need to lose weight the most would indeed do well by extended periods of what Joel referred to as his programs "Priming Phase" and continuing on for quite some time by consistently building and reinforcing solid habits and running a mild deficit.
It appears as if the people who would derive the most out of this are those who are already lean and either trying to maintain it or get ultra-lean (but then the question becomes at what point would the cheat day have to go out the window on the quest for "ultra" leanness, that is if it does have to go short of the very tip end of the process).
The other thing I'd be curious to hear Joel discuss is how he would handle people who aren't necessarily averse to "cheating" in terms of the caloric impact or macronutrient breakdown, but in terms of cheating with "junk" food, since I am guessing that is supposed to enhance the effect versus attempting to merely increase carbs and kcal from the types of foods typically included in the diet during the other 6 days.
While junk wouldn't have quite the same metabolic impact as i would an an already obese person, and while 1x/week wouldn't necessarily be considered frequent by all people, it still seems like that would add up to quite a bit of junk food in a year...............and then the question becomes how much of an issue is all of the other stuff that may or may not be coming for a ride with said food. For example, I'd be wary of consuming french fries even once a week on account of the damaged fats in them. So while I love the taste and would not have an issues about it calorically speaking (or even strictly in terms of macronutrient breakdown), I just could not get over the mental hurdle of consuming those types of foods as often as 1x/week. Maybe once a month or less, if that, but not more often.
So it would be interesting to hear how Joel approaches working with folks who might be of a similar mindset.
I hope this post didn't come across as me trying to dump on his program, as I respect his commitment to clients and the results he gets and don't have anything but high regard for his work.
Posted by: Luc Desjardins | December 15, 2009 10:49 PM
luc,
(1) i would generally agree that refeeding, carb cycling and "cheating" is most beneficial to the already lean. Obese people are more likely to store fat in a surplus.
(2) personally, I prefer (mostly) clean food refeeds that are high in carbs, joel prefers junk refeeds. white rice and pasta is like a "junk" refeed to me; to each his own and whatever works
(3) I agree with you that there IS a mental hurdle - some people do NOT like cheating often or in excess even if they can get away with it with good physical results, because it affects them negatively in a psychological sense. If you dont want a junk food cheat, why take it? bodybuilders are not necessarily OCD about clean eating, many ofthem simply have lost their taste for junk and dont desire it
(4) we elaborate on this, and more of your questions are answered in part 2, stay tuned.
Posted by: Tom | December 16, 2009 1:15 AM
I agree that cheat meals should be used in order for a specific diet to run smoothly. Besides what is brought up in this article (since it was targeted toward people who want to lose fat), cheat days also have an anabolic effect as well.
I know that when I am trying to cut down to low levels of body fat on a low-carb diet, if I lose more muscle mass if I do not include cheat meals at least once a week. (I know that it looks like more muscle mass disappeared than what actually did due to the decrease of water in the muscle due to the low carbs, but my point still stands).
Also, I have not read Cheat Your Way Thin, but from my perspective, it is also beneficial to do strength training right before, during, or right after your cheat meal day because the cheat meal will increase insulin, and the workout will increase insulin plus having a need to now build more muscle, which will put your body in a very anabolic state.
Let me know if you agree with this.
PS: If you are on a low carb diet, it makes sense to eat those few carbs before and after you do strength training, right? This will aid in anti-catabolism. (Plus sufficient protein of course).
Posted by: Sean G | December 16, 2009 1:49 AM
10 years ago I used the Body For Life plan and got pretty lean. Bill also used a cheat day in his plan so a 'cheat meal' each week is not a new concept. It works...... I am now in the begining stages of natural female bodybuilding.
When preping for my first show the trainer took my cheat meals out at 10 weeeks prior to the show. We did some carb cycles and changed the workouts and nothing helped...I hit a wall and could not lose the last 4lbs. I was working my butt off!! This went on for weeks! I did go on stage for the expieriance and had fun....now I'm hooked. I didn't look bad, just not lean enough. My motabolism was shot......
I am now in the 'bulking season' and staying within the 10-15lbs over contest wt with almost no cardio and still eat claen just more of it. I can lift more then ever and energy is amazing!
I do get a cheat meal each week but I find that I like to keep it pretty clean or within reason. When you eat clean for a while you realize that eating crap makes you feel like crap mentaly and physically.
This next show I will be doing more on my own.....or not with the same trainer anyway.
We (my boyfriend eats clean and lifts too)don't call it a diet we call it a lifestyle. We go to the gym and lift 4 nights a week and never miss a workout. You can make it work....Prioritize it and you'd be amazed at what you can get out of it!! If we see a Holiday or evnt coming up and we adjust accordingly.
We also pack meals and snacks.....People acctualy look up to us for it. Amazes people that you can eat all the time and look so good.
I'll get this fine tuned for stepping on stage. That's me though. My BF has no desire to compete but still reeps the benefits. It's wonderful what this lifestyle can do for your attitude, body, health and the list goes on........
Posted by: Cassie | December 16, 2009 8:47 AM
I "cheat" once a week, one meal only, but I've got to tell you... that meal is like 3-5 meals in one.
I'm taking in anywhere between 1800 and 3000 calories in one meal, which end up being low protein, high carb (high glycemic), and high fat. I eat dinner and dessert inside about a 60 minute time period.
I cheat whether or not I've adhered properly (although it's rare that I've not adhered) during the week. It's all about establishing good habits! It's like Tom said in a previous article: made a poor nutrition choice? Get back to the plan.
I try to always have my cheat meal on a day when I've done a good workout earlier in the day, and almost always cheat no later than 3-4 hours before bedtime. (Also try to always eat one last lean protein meal after the cheat meal on this day, 20-30 minutes before bed).
Posted by: Tyler Opsahl | December 16, 2009 10:45 AM
I tried this plan.Great for one week. Until AFTER "cheat day."
Uncontrollable urge for carbs the days following. Not to mention weight gain. Sounded great, but it just did not work for me.
Jesse
Posted by: jesse | December 16, 2009 11:34 AM
Well, I do strongly believe in Cheat Days and Carb Cycling especially if you want to shed the last pounds of fat.
Since I'm into “Health & Fitness”, then to me it's still about health. So, getting lean still should be done the clean and healthy way.
Speaking about Cheat Days/Meals, then Cheating should be in terms of eating the AMOUNT of caloric needs as if you are not following a weight loss program, or even more than that; and that's to let the body out of the starvation state. Therefore, by cheating, your metabolism will skyrocket due to the change of the body state, and I think Tom and Joel discussed it very well above when they talked about the hormonal changes when either obese or lean.
Since I adhere to healthy eating habits in all times then no way to eat Junk Foods in my Cheat Day because it's still about health here.
ALTHOUGH, I might agree with Joel in eating Junk Food as your cheat day but only for those facing a psychic/ psychological problem in accepting not to eat Junk Foods.
So, I can see that Joel is playing on the psychic/psychological aspect, and that's to help them get disciplined and not feeling deprived!!
Feelings, mood, emotions ...etc. have their effect on the body. Different hormones are excreted in your blood with different emotions and feelings. So, Why don't we allow Junk Food in Cheat Days to let them feel satisfied and not deprived??
Well, The question is, “Can we help those who can't resist not to eat Junk Food to change their eating habits into clean & healthy eating habits and let them not feeling deprived?”
Looking forward to the 2nd part!
BR
Husain
Posted by: Husain Al-Khamis | December 16, 2009 1:18 PM
Is this the same program as Cheat to Lose that he put out a few years ago and just renamed? Only back then, it was and e-book
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307352250/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3201652465&ref=pd_sl_akf1f6320_e
Posted by: shelly | December 16, 2009 1:39 PM
I believe you should have a refeed day every 4, 5 days, not 7.
I believe eating too much in your refeed day can make you store fat, and maybe lose everything you did in 1 clean day.
I believe a very low carb day causes muscle lose.
However you won't notice that you stored fat after that pig-out day because you gave 5, 6 steps forward... 1, 2 steps back, so you are still losing fat.
I am against eating more than 20, 30% calories above maintenance in the refeed day(coming from carbs, (thermogenics)), but i support the idea of eating whatever you want that day... simple carbs, example; a lot of yogurt, protein bars, pastas, etc .. as long as you don't over-eat.
Now, i am talking about someone who has a 10% BF, i don't know what works for fatter people .. maybe everything as long you eat less than what you burn.
I remember having a 17% BF and it was much easier to decrease that number, than decreasing a 7% BF
If you eat a muffin for example.... that contains too much fat on it... so it won't be a carb-refeed day, it will be a calorie refeed day... very different, and as i know, carbs raise better that leptin dork-ormone than fats and are more thermogenics(and i remember that you Tom said that that day you should lower the fat intake to 15% macronutrient ratio)
So a couple muffins and a whole egg would already take you to the limit.
What do you think Tom? What has works best for you when you have a 7% BF and you want to decrease it more.
... I know that you do on your clean days, but i don't know if being so estrict in that re-feed day only slowed you down more, than maybe have eaten a lil more.
And what about low carb days... You said that there was no neccesity to change the macronutrient baseline ratio, but what if you have a 7% BF and want to take it to a 4%, is the tapering and low carb plan the right one? Or it doesn't matter as long as you don't pleateu youself.
It's a complete dilemma because carbs help you maintain good leptin levels(less plateaus?), and are thermogenics, but on the other hand fats force you to burn fat, or use them as energy but the break down process helps makes you burn 30% more cals according to Men's Health magazine.
Posted by: Chucky | December 16, 2009 5:47 PM
I agree with Jesse. A "cheat" day is great but I also notice overwhelming carb cravings for a few days afterward. Any thoughts on why this is and how to avoid or prevent them?
Posted by: Jane | December 16, 2009 10:39 PM
shelly -- same author, same principles, but newer updated program for the internet, from what i understand; has audio files, etc. I only read the "program manual" youd have to ask joel for more details.
Posted by: tom venuto | December 17, 2009 12:03 AM
chucky, I would agree with you for very lean people: more frequent refeeds. those with more body fat could do once a week. Those very overweight and just starting out probably dont need any refeeds. Its really the people already lean who want to get leaner who are likely to benefit most from refeed days.
I also agree with you that caution is in order if you take full cheat days. It can backfire; I have seen it backfire. It never ceases to amaze me how much people can eat if you tell them they can eat "without limit." Personally, I like doing a more structured refeed and keeping track of how much Im putting in.
Sometims I only go back up to maintenance, or I go up to maintenance + 10-15% which is about the amount Id go into a surplus anyway on a muscle gaining program. Much larger refeeds can certainly be taken, but I think its best only to do that if it follows a prolonged period of very low calorie/carb dieting.
If youre already very lean and you wan to get ripped.... shredded. no doubt about it, Id recommend a cyclical low carb diet with a refeed every 4 days or so, and 3 days very strict, for most people about .8 to 1.0 g per lb bodyweight. More than one way to skin a bodybuilder... but thats the way I do it.
cheers.
Posted by: tom venuto | December 17, 2009 12:09 AM
"Cheating", carb/cal cycling definately worked for me. I've lost 108 lbs over the last 2 years so far, still going and definately losing weight over christmas.
Before reading and applying BFFM my "diets" never worked, because they were too rigid.
I want to affirm that cheating meals or even whole days don't automatically result in "falling off the wagon". It can actually work!
Thanks for your great books and this blog, Tom, your approach to burning fat rocks!
Enjoy your cheat meals during the holidays!
Posted by: Sarah | December 17, 2009 5:09 AM
I also tried sticking on a diet and having a cheat day. But the problem is that I find it hard to get back to the plan after my cheat day.
Posted by: Alice | December 18, 2009 6:22 AM
I have been a long time reader of Tom's website and I always recommend this website to anyone wanting to start a "diet" since I think the Burn The Fat philosophy is the core to any successful lifestyle change (increase exercise, increase metabolism, increase fat burning, dietary control). My "lifestyle change" has been a long slow process but over the last 9 years I have lost 50lbs and feel healthy and energetic again like when I was 27.
I personally believe that exercise is the core (I do ashtanga yoga) and learning how to control eating (learning how to eat a 1500-1800 calorie day, learning how to not give into cravings, slowly learning to give up bad food habits). But I have also discovered recently that I have been doing calorie cycling for years without realizing it. I always called it my "light days or salad days" and my "wow I am really hungry I want a hamburger today" days. I need these "feed" days to avoid crashing my metabolism. After years I developed a feeling for this stuff, but I don't know how to teach it. But I really think there is something real here in terms of calorie cycling, eating fatty food occasionally, and varying what we eat to "keep the body guessing" (I guess keeping the leptin level/receptor sensitivity dynamic).
I think the hard part is starting a lifestyle change is finding some key aspect of it that keeps us going for the years (yoga for me) and trusting that the fat will eventually come off.
Posted by: jessica | December 18, 2009 11:35 AM
I think one of the problems of using the word "cheat" is that different people will have different interpretations of what "cheat" means. To me, cheating is one meal, eating a food that I haven't been eating during my training plan...but still in a reasonably-sized portion. "Cheating" for others may mean going to Outback Steakhouse and eating an entire Bloomin Onion. Still others take the entire day as a non-stop food fest. For this reason, I really like the BFFM guidelines of 90/10, refeed days/carb cycling, etc. Much more reasonable and most importantly, a somewhat more standard definition to "refeed" rather than "cheat".
Posted by: Amy | December 21, 2009 1:08 PM
What i've found about low carb diets or eating plans for those who don't like the word "diet" is that you have to eat NO carbs whatsoever until your cheat day.
When you cut the carbs completely for 2 to 3 days you tend not to crave them as much as your insulin levels are stable and don't spike as when you have sugar or sweets. You only crave carbs when your insulin levels drops dramatically usually after sweets or candy, your body enjoyed the peak so much that it wants more, hence chocoholics are born..LOL..
My sister and i both went on a no carb diet, she has been cheating and having carbs like bread and sweet and as a result hasn't lost that much weight and still craves carbs. hope this advices helps you carbs lovers as hot chips was once and still is in some ways my kryptinite.
Posted by: Hung | January 4, 2010 8:29 AM